Comments for AspiringEconomist.com http://aspiringeconomist.com Passing thoughts from a student of economics Sat, 19 May 2012 03:22:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 Comment on Rape Statistics: 1 in 4? by Lynn http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4578 Lynn Sun, 06 May 2012 18:11:20 +0000 http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4578 Thank you Anna.. I work with many women who have been molested and or raped at very young ages, who were afraid to say anything, or thought it was their fault .. they should not have been at a certain place (at the playground as a child or horse stable .. for example) at that time. But the pain of being molested as a child carries with you the rest of your life! The fears that we as victims follow.. fear of being loved, or accepted again. Fear of being pretty, fear of being a women, are with us. Those who have never been molested or raped, have no clue and feel this is a ploy of some kind.. but I say, it is not. And untll someone has walked in their shoes, they will never know how horrible the experience is. Thank you Anna.. I work with many women who have been molested and or raped at very young ages, who were afraid to say anything, or thought it was their fault .. they should not have been at a certain place (at the playground as a child or horse stable .. for example) at that time. But the pain of being molested as a child carries with you the rest of your life! The fears that we as victims follow.. fear of being loved, or accepted again. Fear of being pretty, fear of being a women, are with us. Those who have never been molested or raped, have no clue and feel this is a ploy of some kind.. but I say, it is not. And untll someone has walked in their shoes, they will never know how horrible the experience is.

]]> Comment on Rape Statistics: 1 in 4? by Anna http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4577 Anna Fri, 04 May 2012 05:03:26 +0000 http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4577 I don't understand how many commenters feel that everyone raped has this strong compulsion to report it. It will make you feel weak. These were moments when you had no power in the situation and this is absolutely terrifying. I was raped repeatedly by an older brother and cousin. They didn't go so far as penetration, but there was touching licking in places an 8 year old was taught to think are naughty places (not to be talked about) My sister had a security guard's tongue down her throat when she was 7. She only remembered this at a later age and couldn't report it. At 14 her friend shoves his hand down her pants. After a resounding No he throws her over his shoulder and tries to get her inside his house. She managed to lock herself in a bathroom and phone other friends to rescue her. Said friends later tell her she was at fault because she drank with him and she's slept with some of the guys before. My mother was first assulted when she was 11. When she was in her 30s, a man bent her over a pool table, licked her face, and asked for sex. All the wile my father was in the other room, playing poker with the guy's buddies. Mama didn't report him because he was a wealthy man. He had connections and power. She was poor and with child, she couldn't afford the stress, couldn't give the time, didn't have the money or support to go against him. (She told myfather some 10 years after theincident. He said he was disgusted. With her.) My sister didn't report him because he was her friend and the locals saw her as a slut who got what was coming to her. We didn't report them because we were young and didn't know what to do. I couldn't report them because they're my cousin and brother. Everyone saw them as good guys. (And yeah, now after 9 years, they are. Though that doesn't atone for the 9 years of internal turmoil and damage that happened to me.) Rape isn't just a scary man with a knife in a dark alley. Rape can be your brother in your bed at night when he thinks you're sleeping. Rape can be your friend with a drink and a skewed sense of entilement. Rape can be a wealthy acquaintance with too much power. I don’t understand how many commenters feel that everyone raped has this strong compulsion to report it.
It will make you feel weak. These were moments when you had no power in the situation and this is absolutely terrifying.
I was raped repeatedly by an older brother and cousin. They didn’t go so far as penetration, but there was touching licking in places an 8 year old was taught to think are naughty places (not to be talked about)
My sister had a security guard’s tongue down her throat when she was 7. She only remembered this at a later age and couldn’t report it. At 14 her friend shoves his hand down her pants. After a resounding No he throws her over his shoulder and tries to get her inside his house. She managed to lock herself in a bathroom and phone other friends to rescue her. Said friends later tell her she was at fault because she drank with him and she’s slept with some of the guys before.
My mother was first assulted when she was 11. When she was in her 30s, a man bent her over a pool table, licked her face, and asked for sex. All the wile my father was in the other room, playing poker with the guy’s buddies.
Mama didn’t report him because he was a wealthy man. He had connections and power. She was poor and with child, she couldn’t afford the stress, couldn’t give the time, didn’t have the money or support to go against him. (She told myfather some 10 years after theincident. He said he was disgusted. With her.)
My sister didn’t report him because he was her friend and the locals saw her as a slut who got what was coming to her.
We didn’t report them because we were young and didn’t know what to do. I couldn’t report them because they’re my cousin and brother. Everyone saw them as good guys. (And yeah, now after 9 years, they are. Though that doesn’t atone for the 9 years of internal turmoil and damage that happened to me.)
Rape isn’t just a scary man with a knife in a dark alley. Rape can be your brother in your bed at night when he thinks you’re sleeping. Rape can be your friend with a drink and a skewed sense of entilement. Rape can be a wealthy acquaintance with too much power.

]]> Comment on Rape Statistics: 1 in 4? by Woman http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4576 Woman Thu, 03 May 2012 20:07:40 +0000 http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4576 Chris- I understand your confusion and concern. But I fear being a man it would be hard for you to ever get a clear picture of this problem becuase most women if they can admit it happened at all they can't admit it to a man. I had the same doubts at one point in time and I asked many of my girlfriends not many admitted it... at first. As the years have gone by more and more of them have admitted that yes someone did- sometimes more than one someone. Sometimes there were ropes involved sometimes it was not till they woke in the morning and found themselves used without thier knowledge or consent. The numbers on my personal counter rose and rose then wonder of wonders I joined thier ranks. It is real it does happen and it does happen WAY TO OFTEN. 1 in 4? I think that is generous... 2 in 5 is closer... and the real truth- I thought twice about posting this because my email was required... and that is something you probably can't understand I'm not sorry you can't I wish I still couldn't... so yeah that many don't get reported. Chris- I understand your confusion and concern. But I fear being a man it would be hard for you to ever get a clear picture of this problem becuase most women if they can admit it happened at all they can’t admit it to a man. I had the same doubts at one point in time and I asked many of my girlfriends not many admitted it… at first. As the years have gone by more and more of them have admitted that yes someone did- sometimes more than one someone. Sometimes there were ropes involved sometimes it was not till they woke in the morning and found themselves used without thier knowledge or consent. The numbers on my personal counter rose and rose then wonder of wonders I joined thier ranks. It is real it does happen and it does happen WAY TO OFTEN. 1 in 4? I think that is generous… 2 in 5 is closer… and the real truth- I thought twice about posting this because my email was required… and that is something you probably can’t understand I’m not sorry you can’t I wish I still couldn’t… so yeah that many don’t get reported.

]]> Comment on Automatically Updated Unemployment Map by christina thomas http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2010/07/25/automatically-updated-unemployment-map/#comment-4575 christina thomas Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:42:01 +0000 http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2010/07/25/automatically-updated-unemployment-map/#comment-4575 Frankie Stix...what a disgusting human. Frankie Stix…what a disgusting human.

]]> Comment on Rape Statistics: 1 in 4? by John http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4574 John Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:00:13 +0000 http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4574 I've read a lot of complaints about how we are afraid to talk about rape as a society right after the same poster goes on a rant about how questioning skewed surveys is victim blaming. We cannot have an honest conversation if people treat these statistics like the ten commandments! And if a study said the number of men who have been anally raped is 1 in 4 I'd be very suspicious of that statistic. But being skeptical of statistics like these does not equate to men saying rape is alright and never happens. Lets just try and be honest for a change. I’ve read a lot of complaints about how we are afraid to talk about rape as a society right after the same poster goes on a rant about how questioning skewed surveys is victim blaming. We cannot have an honest conversation if people treat these statistics like the ten commandments! And if a study said the number of men who have been anally raped is 1 in 4 I’d be very suspicious of that statistic. But being skeptical of statistics like these does not equate to men saying rape is alright and never happens. Lets just try and be honest for a change.

]]> Comment on Rape Statistics: 1 in 4? by Slut Walk - Page 12 - Grasscity.com Forums http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4573 Slut Walk - Page 12 - Grasscity.com Forums Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:49:02 +0000 http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4573 [...] Originally Posted by Heosphoros They absolutely are about that, and who are you to say different? And you're hilariously naive if you think rape is a rare occurence. 1/4 of all women are raped in their lifetime, and that's just the reported ones. 1/14 is the number your looking for. Rape Statistics: Are 1 in 4 women raped? Skeptical analysis. | AspiringEconomist.com [...] […] Originally Posted by Heosphoros They absolutely are about that, and who are you to say different? And you’re hilariously naive if you think rape is a rare occurence. 1/4 of all women are raped in their lifetime, and that’s just the reported ones. 1/14 is the number your looking for. Rape Statistics: Are 1 in 4 women raped? Skeptical analysis. | AspiringEconomist.com […]

]]> Comment on Rape Statistics: 1 in 4? by Toni http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4572 Toni Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:56:14 +0000 http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4572 Thank you David for your words. I am shocked and saddened at some of these responses. Particularly from other women. Rape is rape. Once when I was drunk in a dorm room at the age of 17, I passed out from drinking while partying with a group of "friends". Everyone else left, except two other 17 year olds who both had sex with me while I was incoherent. I thought I was dreaming until they bragged about it the next day, and left me feeling humiliated. My reputation at school was ruined. Mine was...not theirs. I was also raped by an abusive husband who would not take no for an answer....although I said no repeatedly. He felt he had a right to my body. I am an upper middle class educated woman. I have never told anyone about these incidents outside of therapy. If you ask me, the 1 in 4 may actually be too low. Thank you David for your words. I am shocked and saddened at some of these responses. Particularly from other women. Rape is rape. Once when I was drunk in a dorm room at the age of 17, I passed out from drinking while partying with a group of “friends”. Everyone else left, except two other 17 year olds who both had sex with me while I was incoherent. I thought I was dreaming until they bragged about it the next day, and left me feeling humiliated. My reputation at school was ruined. Mine was…not theirs. I was also raped by an abusive husband who would not take no for an answer….although I said no repeatedly. He felt he had a right to my body.

I am an upper middle class educated woman. I have never told anyone about these incidents outside of therapy. If you ask me, the 1 in 4 may actually be too low.

]]> Comment on Rape Statistics: 1 in 4? by David Jackson http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4571 David Jackson Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:05:48 +0000 http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4571 What's wrong with you idiots? Short of the obvious.... If a woman is in any way "coerced" into any form of sex act, without benefit of her expicit consent, she has been raped; I don't care if she "know" it or not! I'll never come to terms with why any woman would refuse to be treated for the physical and psychological trauma of such an event: I've had friends who didn't want their parents to know - Then, don't tell them! Another actually professed to having "forgiven" her assailant - How magnanimous! Maybe she'll be able to explain her altruism to the scumbag's next victim. Rape is rape...period! It isn't a case of mistaken identity or a Freudian slip. It isn't a right or a biological imperiative. It is a crime against another human being; and, it should be reported and punished as the criminal affront that it is! I've tried to get this across to my students for more yers than I care to admit: If I wasn't so overwhelmed by general disbelief that anyone would prefer to suffer in silence, I'd have given it up, long ago. As a male, I am not surprised at the number of rapes. I am, however, disappointed at the lack of interest in the psychosocial ramifications of the acts themselves. Women shouldn't be paranoid, they should be p---ed! And they should do whatever it takes to defeat any attempt to rob them of their most basic humanity and personhood. We ought to be reading and hearing about the ever-increasing number of attempted rapes that result in the severest of injuries to the assailants. David Jackson What’s wrong with you idiots? Short of the obvious….

If a woman is in any way “coerced” into any form of sex act, without benefit of her expicit consent, she has been raped; I don’t care if she “know” it or not! I’ll never come to terms with why any woman would refuse to be treated for the physical and psychological trauma of such an event: I’ve had friends who didn’t want their parents to know - Then, don’t tell them! Another actually professed to having “forgiven” her assailant - How magnanimous! Maybe she’ll be able to explain her altruism to the scumbag’s next victim. Rape is rape…period! It isn’t a case of mistaken identity or a Freudian slip. It isn’t a right or a biological imperiative. It is a crime against another human being; and, it should be reported and punished as the criminal affront that it is!
I’ve tried to get this across to my students for more yers than I care to admit: If I wasn’t so overwhelmed by general disbelief that anyone would prefer to suffer in silence, I’d have given it up, long ago.

As a male, I am not surprised at the number of rapes. I am, however, disappointed at the lack of interest in the psychosocial ramifications of the acts themselves. Women shouldn’t be paranoid, they should be p—ed! And they should do whatever it takes to defeat any attempt to rob them of their most basic humanity and personhood. We ought to be reading and hearing about the ever-increasing number of attempted rapes that result in the severest of injuries to the assailants.

David Jackson

]]> Comment on Rape Statistics: 1 in 4? by Denton Dentist http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4570 Denton Dentist Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:55:20 +0000 http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4570 "Have you had sexual intercourse when you didn’t want to because a man gave you alcohol or drugs?" Does this take into account that a woman drank 1 drink that was purchased by a man and was not drunk from the 1 drink? While not trying to make light of this serious situation, if that same woman has sex with the man and later thinks that he is a creep in general, is it considered rape then? “Have you had sexual intercourse when you didn’t want to because a man gave you alcohol or drugs?” Does this take into account that a woman drank 1 drink that was purchased by a man and was not drunk from the 1 drink?

While not trying to make light of this serious situation, if that same woman has sex with the man and later thinks that he is a creep in general, is it considered rape then?

]]> Comment on Rape Statistics: 1 in 4? by Cathleen http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4569 Cathleen Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:21:08 +0000 http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/#comment-4569 The majority of rapes are never reported. Take that into account in your study. The majority of rapes are never reported. Take that into account in your study.

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